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claudemeyer

France
Joined 2/9/2012
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02/22/2012 21:07:19  Reply with Quote

Hello. I am starting to write my plectrum banjo arrangements for 4 string tuned CGBD and/or DGBE. I have access to some programs, but I prefer Tabledit and GuitarPro. If you have some links to download "chord dictionaries" for this tuning, it will be helpful to start importing these standard chord diagrams libraries.

By advance, many Thanks.

 

Claude, Paris

banjotom2

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02/23/2012 01:01:57  View banjotom2's Photo Albums  View banjotom2's Blog  Reply with Quote

Funny that you mention that, Claude...

I have been using Tabledit for years... about 6 years now... to program arrangements for my students...

Up until recently, I did all of my 'chord charts', many times hand-written on pre-printed charts diagrams that I designed for my own purposes...

What I found, however, in Tabledit, is that it is fairly easy to create these diagrams... or collections, if you will. of chord charts.

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I can tell you from experience, that getting someone to do the actual work of producing such a collection of charts will be your biggest challenge...

I think it's a good idea, however...

To get such a collection started, it seems like it would be a good idea to focus on a group of chords, i.e., to 'define' an area of chord study that you want to pursue...

In other words, to make it easy on the individual creating the chord collection... start with "major and minor chords in C"...

Here's a list of focus areas that might get someone started...

Focus areas for building a collection of chord charts...

1. Chords in the "Harmonized Major Scale", beginning with the Key of C.

2. Take the above, once completed, and start following the "Guitar Keys", Harmonized Scales in the keys of C, G, D A and E.

3. For each of the above groups, produce a set for 'triads' or 3-note chords on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd strings, the 2nd, 3rd and 4th strings... and a group of 4-note chords.

4. Also consider chord progressions... even though a Harmonized Scale is a group of related chords in a specific key, think of producing chord families in groups of chords in a short progression, i.e., a related chord family in C that goes something like: C, CM7, C7... where the sound of the chords flow into each other... chords mean so much more when they are arranged for a 'flow of sound', rather than just a bunch of un-related chords...

5. I would also consider grouping them such as: C, C Aug, am, C7, cm, etc... again, for a 'flow of sound'... it's so much easier to remember chords when they relate to each other... 

6. Frequently in pop and jazz, you see short 'chord cycles' that are really just short chord progressions of chords, related to each other, that may use 'voice-leading' as a means of chord-to-chord resolution... this is another effective tool for organizing chords by 'sound'... Think of every cool chord progression you've ever heard... play it in C, then G, then D, then A and followed by E... It's a great idea for building a collection of chords.

7. You could also choose a common chord formula, such as I, IV, V or something more akin to jazz... do it in C, then G, then D, then A and finally E.

8. Use a source such as Wikipedia as a source of information on chord progressions, types of progressions, chord cycles, etc., as a means of coming up with new ideas to group, present, and collect chords in related families.

9. You could also set up chord groups according to "Inversions"... An open position C chord, followed by the 1st and second inversions... do this for all position chords, i.e., Up-The-Neck Chords...

10. Also set up chord groups in each of the "Guitar Keys", i.e., C, G, D, A and E... in a 'chord-type' fashion, i.e., C, C7, C Dominant 7, C9, C Sus4, C6/9, etc... and all of their inversions...

There is an immense amount of work and time in producing such as  collection of chords and chord progressions...

You really need some kind of focus...

It might not be a bad idea to start a thread on a type of chord collection and key that you're going to focus on for a week... have other BHO members put their 2 cents in, i.e., they can submit chord ideas or their opinions as you develop a collection... put yourself in charge of managing the collection and perhaps also as the 'cheerleader' and director to maintain enthusiasm over the course of time... something like this cannot be accomplished over night or in a week or one month... It will require someone who is dedicated to task, who is not the 'moody' sort... one who will lose enthusiasm quickly or un-expectedly and not pick up the ball again.

Again, the challenge for such a project, is the management, and maintaining the enthusiasm required to see such a product through to its completion.

Tom

www.banjotom2.com


Edited by - banjotom2 on 02/23/2012 01:02:45

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banjotom2

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02/23/2012 01:07:06  View banjotom2's Photo Albums  View banjotom2's Blog  Reply with Quote

Let me see if I can come up with a sample of what I am talking about...

Back in a bit...

Tom

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banjotom2

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02/23/2012 02:27:07  View banjotom2's Photo Albums  View banjotom2's Blog  Reply with Quote

I came up with the following Tabledited chord 'tab' which also contains the actual chord diagrams and the beginnings of a 'Chord Diagram' library.

I created the tablature version first, followed by the diagrams.

Harmonized Scale Chord Tablature and Chord Charts in the Key of C - Tabledit

Harmonized Scale Chord Tablature and Chord Charts in the Key of C - MIDI

Harmonized Scale Chord Tablature and Chord Charts in the Key of C - PDF

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In order to create the diagrams:

1. Open a new tab screen...

2. Set 'tuning' for Tenor banjo...

3. Select a tuning or adjust what's there to suit the tuning you want that is not available otherwise.

4. I choose to set capo to zero...

5. Go to main tab screen.

6. Click on 'Chord Diagram' on 'Tools' menu...

7. Click on "New"...

8. Click on frets in diagram to create note and finger positions.

9. Notice as you create 'note' or 'finger postions', the note name appears at the bottom of the diagram.

10.  Name the Chord, it will not save diagram unless a Chord Name is given.

11. Hit "OK" and you have your first diagram.

12. Just click on "New" to create More.

13. You may save this 'Chord Collection' separately from tab file. Use "Catalogue" to name the file, Save it where ever you choose, I put mine in a file called "Tenor Banjo Chords" in my Banjo Hangout Folder.

14. You can now call up this chord collection while in any tab file.

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Once you have a file open that you want to insert 'pre-created' chord diagrams in, find your saved chord chart, open it.. then:

1. Use the File/Open procedure to open the chart collection you saved... it will open.

2.  At this point, you have the option of 1) 'Inserting' the individual diagrams into your tab file, or 2) printing them out separately though the Tool/Chord Diagram dialog box.

3. The diagrams will appear wherever you insert them, but will not print UNLESS you specifically ask Tabledit to do that... You must do the File/Options sequnce to get this process started...

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To make your 'pre-created' chord diagrams print as part of your tablature:

1. Open Chord Collection you've saved, while in an open Tab file...

2. File/Options/Display to get to the correct dialogue box...

3. Check the box named "Chords as Diagrams"...

4. Hit "Apply"...

5. Hit "OK"...

You may have to increase depth of first page header in order to keep your diagrams from showing and printing into the Title and Author areas.

Here's the process for that:

1. FILE/OPTIONS/Page Layout...

2. Header of first page: HEIGHT...

3. Increase the height of the header here to solve 'over-print' problems...

You should be good to go at this point...

Any questions, drop me a line...

Tom

www.banjotom2.com


Edited by - banjotom2 on 02/23/2012 02:30:28

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banjotom2

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02/23/2012 02:29:32  View banjotom2's Photo Albums  View banjotom2's Blog  Reply with Quote

PS: Once you have created a Chord Diagram Library, you can open it while in any open tablature page...

I saved mine as a file named "Tenor Banjo Chords"... which can be added to at any time and can be opened while in any Tabledit file I'm working on.

Tom

www.banjotom2.com


Edited by - banjotom2 on 02/23/2012 02:29:55

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BigJohn67

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02/23/2012 13:08:37  View BigJohn67's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Or maybe go here:

http://tinyurl.com/6vfztwp

Hopefully the tunings you want will be in somewhere...

John.

 

 


Edited by - BigJohn67 on 02/23/2012 13:15:03

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BigJohn67

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02/23/2012 19:34:31  View BigJohn67's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Chord Charts for:

CGBD -  http://www.jbott.com/plect_chords.pdf

and

DGBE -  http://www.jbott.com/gtb_chords.pdf

Is this what you're looking for?

John.

 

 

 

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claudemeyer

France
Joined 2/9/2012
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02/23/2012 23:10:45  Reply with Quote

Hello. Thanks for your replies. I know most of the chords. When I write an arrangement with Tabledit for instance,
each time I play a C note with a C chord, I need to place number 10 on the first string.
And above the note the chord symbol with the dots 7.9.8.10 (low to high CGBD). I am only asking to download a Tabledit catalogue of chords to avoid waiting time ( and risk of errors ) to draw the same diagrams. If the catalogue is not complete, it is not important, as I can draw diagrams for these exotic sus4/b5 chords. It is only to win a little time as a starting point.
My goal is only to fix on paper arrangements for 4 string banjo, as usual, a simple leadsheet with a melody line with the right chords diagrams above each note, as we all have used. Thanks

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lamylouy

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02/24/2012 09:33:22  View lamylouy's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Is there someone doing tabs for the Tenor Banjo? Even finding sheet music is hard.

Banjo Jane

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lamylouy

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04/14/2012 09:32:17  View lamylouy's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

I have searched quite a few places and finding tenor banjo tabs is near impossible. Any help would be appreicated.

Also there are alot of 5 string tabs is there someway to use or redo them for the tenor banjo?

Thanks

Banjo Janie

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banjotom2

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04/14/2012 16:29:54  View banjotom2's Photo Albums  View banjotom2's Blog  Reply with Quote

Check this out... 2 different tuning options...

http://chordlist.brian-amberg.de/en/tenor-banjo/celtic/

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lamylouy

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04/15/2012 08:36:46  View lamylouy's Photo Albums  Reply with Quote

Thank you, it will take me awhile to figure out what I am looking at. I sure wish there were more Tenor Banjo things.
Banjo Janie

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